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What sections of the ATO tax acts is foreign currency trading? That is cash base online trading with no physical goods exchange? The tax treatment of foreign currency gains and losses is discussed in Division of the Income Tax Assessment Act The Division effectively caters for all types of foreign currency transactions including having a foreign currency denominated bank accounts and shares, overseas rental properties, trading stock, hedging transactions as well as the purchase and subsequent disposal of capital assets.
Section states that foreign gains are assessable when they are realised unless it is a gain of a domestic or private nature, such as when you go travelling overseas on holidays or purchase goods for personal use. However to take advantage of this exemption you must make an election to disregard any realised foreign currency gains or losses for accounts with a balance under this threshold.
Sub-division C of the Income Tax Assessment Act sets out the rules for foreign currency to be translated into an Australian dollar amount including the use of an appropriate prevailing exchange rate for the translation.
Reply "Am I reading this right? Reply "Not quite Dave. Reply "Hi Mr Taxman, Thank you for providing such informative site for all of us - very gen of you! My question is about Forex Currency Trading. Also, how many years are Business losses quarantined for? Thanks so much in advance Mr Taxman! Reply "Where on the etax do i enter my profits or losses? Also, just trying my luck, are paid forex courses tax deductible?
Reply "Forgot to mention, i am just a small time casual trader who just started only 5 months ago". If you conducted the courses prior to doing any trading then you cannot claim them just like a uni graduate cannot claim their courses they studied before they got a job. Reply "I hope someone can help me. I doing my etax and am not sure if my Forex trading losses is deductible against my Assessible Income, or does it falls under Capital Loss. I opened up a Forex trading account abroad and it had been traded by a company for a month but it suffered losses so I closed my account and pulled out the remaining fund.
Reply "Victor - your trading losses are quaratined against future trading gains. Can you please direct me to a section on the ATO website where I can read about this ruling mentioned in your reply to Victor Aug 24, ".
Reply "Here is some info on the non-commercial losses rules http: Reply "To meet the 20k turnover do you add up sales or profits on completed trades". If so, where in an individual's tax return does it belong? Reply "You can show the loss in the foreign currency income question of your income tax return. Or do accounts only qualify if they are pure bank accounts?
Reply "Mr Taxman, would like to know if my beginner's forex trading loss should be put onto my eTax or not? Also had a foreign option trading account for years in loss - will it be tax dedutiable only towards any future capital gains?
Reply "By all means include in your tax return. Trading losses are quarantined to future tax years unless you satisy one of the non-commercial losses rules where they can then be used to offset future trading profits. The account only derives interest income monthly.
Reply "Regarding "foreign gains are assessable when they are realised": From a business point of view, does 'realised' mean that I only have to pay tax on the profit when I withdrawl the profit from the broker's account? In other words, if I leave the profit in the broker's account and continue to trade with the profit, I wont pay tax until I start withdrawing? Is that right or am I way off base?
Reply "Way off base. Reply "Thanks for the reply. Is that tax paid monthly, quarterly or yearly and do we have a choice in that matter?
Reply "hi, i trade currencies on fxcm and i have no idea how much tax i need to pay or if i need to pay tax on it at all? Reply "What documentation have you provided your accountant? All trades during the year? Summary position at year end? Reply "Hi, i currently holding some speculative currencies that I have exchanged Aussie dollars for. I hope to exchange it back at some point when it has appreciated.
As this is an exchange and not an investment, am i liable to pay tax on this? Reply "Sounds like you are carrying on a business. What is the value in AUD? Reply "I have just started trading and want to know what my tax implications are with regards to forex trading.
What tax rate do you pay? Is there a tax free threashold? Can you also purchase a computer and use the cost against any tax? If you don't have any other income then you will get the tax free threshold.
Expenditure directly related to your income activity will be deductible to the extent that they occurred after you started the activity - that is, you can't claim that course last year that pushed you into trading. Reply "Hi, will ato regard trading forex full time as a Personal Service Income? I would not consider it to be Personal Services Income.
Reply "hey taxman, I want to rent an apartment with a room dedicated to my forex trading. Reply "Yes you can claim the portion of rent for that room Mandy.
The ATO frowns on taxpayers saying "its about one-quarter of the place"". Reply "Hi Taxman, I am a part time currency trader, would capital gains tax be applicable on Forex trading or is it just reported as normal income ". Reply "Normal income if you are a trader, regardless of the time that you spend trading.
Reply "If the room is used exclusively for trading then yes you can claim the portion of rent but if you are using that room for private purposes eg your bed is there and merely have a computer in the corner of room then no chance of claiming. Reply "Hi Mr Taxman, I have an account that essentially works as an automated trade service from a signal provider.
I don't do any actual trading myself, I just log in and check occasionally as the money increases, but it is only a small amount, less than 5K. It is, however, with an Australian Broker, not offshore. Will I need to declare this on Tax and pay a fee? So in this particular instance when a there is a trade copier service or some automated software that actually does the trading can a tax effective structure be put in place.
If so, would a setup for Individual, Company or a Trust be the best option or should you leave for Port Villa? What is your advice? Who did you set up the account with? What is your income in percent? Are they based on Queensland? I am looking for something like that and found one in Queensland. They claim minimum 50k profit in a year. Are you happy with their service". Reply "Hi Mr Taxman, My parent overseas want to help me with home deposit. I want to know if this money is taxable. I know that any amount I receive has to be shown at IT4 target foriegn income.
I called up ATO twice and the person otherside said that if it is a regular gift it is an annutiy and need to be assessable. I do not believe it is an annutiy. Can you please through some light on it and also what documents do I need to maintain so that ATo does not confuses it with foriegn income".
Reply "Many thanks for your email. Reply "I am still trying to work this out for my tax. I traded currencies through FXCM for approx 6 months whilst working full time. Am I able to claim that against my taxable income from my normal employment? Reply "It wouldn't be a capital loss based on your volume of trading activity. I trade forex and have a full time job.
Will it be better to open a company to do my forex trading? I a looking at the most tax effective way. I also rent a place and would like to right of the room as an expense. However any drawings of profits that you take out of the company are assessable to you personally anyway so you would need to leave the funds in there.
Reply "I beg to differ Richard. You are assuming no wage being drawn from company which you would need to do if you are drawing funds out of it! Reply "Hi Mr Taxman. Firstly thanks for all the responses to these questions it's helped me out a lot. If this is the case, can my company purchase non business realated items and assets for personal use by it's employees? Reply "In relation to funds drawn out of a company there are two main scenarios - a you take it out as a wage in the year that income is derived or b you take it out as a dividend from prior year profits.
Reply "Hi I am a active online forex trader trade volume is over trades in a year and had a loss of 20, and on other side i am self contractor accountant have ABN for accounting work and have income from accounting work Can i reduce my share trading loss from a contracting income and pay tax only on